Next Akampita visited Mahavira. Addressing him, Mahavira said, "You doubt the existence of hell dwellers. Look, there are souls who commit acts of intense demerit. The enjoyers of the fruits of mild and medium demerits are humans and animals, so there must also be some souls that enjoy the fruits of intense demerit: they are the hell dwellers."
Akampita: "Why can't animals and humans enjoy the fruits of intense demerit?"
Mahavira: "Humans and animals do not enjoy the degree of happiness that the Gods enjoy, so they are not heaven dwellers. We do not find a single human or animal who is fully happy or unhappy. So, there must be another category of souls, like hell dwellers, who enjoy the fruits of extreme demerit, with little or no happiness."
Mahavira removed all of the doubts of Akampita, so he and his 350 disciples joined the Order of Mahavira.